This week in our Homelessness serial query, SymbolEditor-in-Chief Nilay Patel talks to filmmaker Davis Guggenheim in his new article Inside the Brain Bill: Abolishing the Counterfeit Bill, what premiered on Netflix earlier this month.
Davis talks about the two years he spent working as a filmmaker and co-founder of Microsoft, and how he got to the doors to get into film, book production, and amazing thing about what he has learned about that person, and so much more. . Below is an excerpt from the editing section from the comments.
Nilay Patel: I thought the best thing of all was that you were alone with him during his “Thinking Week” when you were alone at home when he read books and when you saw the Diet bottles of The Coca-cola mass. I have yet to see the richest man in the world, opening the can of Diet Coke. Most do not have that experience. He was a great man, and he alone was the real thing. What does it feel like to go on a date with him?
Davis Guggenheim: Oh, very good… I will draw a curtain for when I work on essays.
You say, ‘Well, here we are. We’re doing some time to work, right? When we start reading in the afternoon, then we have to read and do it in the afternoon, we know that time will pass. I have done it in different projects. It often appeals to someone who says “What do you want to read?” “What page should I still stand on?” For Bill it was like “Oh, I will start reading.”
I know the book, by Tara Westover from the book Teach, which he picked up that day. He was on his list of hours and hours and 45 minutes. And we’re all moving around with it, the lights are moving, the cameras are moving forward, they’re all whispering, but I’m saying … people just read like we weren’t there, and drinking the Diet Coke at will.
So he looked amazing in his way. Our camera and lights were his favorite. It sounds more like “Oh, do I have a quiet time to read? I take my quiet time to read.
There are many photos of him and the computer. Is it like “Bill, just use Excel for a while and we will take some beautiful books from you”? How does Bill Gates confirm that?
At this point, you just say, “Bill, we want a movie on his workstation” and then he does what he wants.
The one thing that made me want to say – it was the end of the day when I knew he was playing bridge over the internet and so he said, “Hey, why not play the bridge online now? “
He left and played on the bridge online for 45 minutes. But again, he told me to do it, and he was less concerned about why we were there. He was trying to win the bridge game.
What really surprised you about Gates?
It’s very emotional.
He was very surprised.
The first three or four questions, I do not see all the emotions. Melinda [Puertas] talk about it. When everyone watches the movie, the boys see that he is the first to cry. I have a lot of cries and I think he shows it … because he has a strong sense of humor and he has a lot of faith in the kinds of useful and optimistic ideas that he still holds.
This tells me about what I think he thinks, what I believe he does not pay attention to to determine his inner feelings. There are still many businesses and non-businesses and foundations, you are overwhelmed by the inner feeling. It really happens to me all the time. She wants to unpack. He doesn’t share the other side with her. That is a shame. I think the information about him will start to show. I think seeing someone is really driven by the desire to do good in the world. It is driven by the negative perception of the guilt of children on the other side of the world who are dying for what their children have.
There is a view that it looks at the statistics on the number of children with polio, how many people it can cure. And you say something like, “Oh, it’s not really inspiring.” It was like he was “Yes so why?” And I know he is the one who should influence him, since he has the money and the power. Touch it. You seem to be saying that he is in real trouble.
It has a real impact, or someone else’s, so why not like buying art, or as you know, great toys like the other millions? Of course, I don’t know why he doesn’t. I just wonder why you don’t show your passion. You know, people say that is different from the kind of analysis that makes sense. I think it’s very emotional. He just doesn’t show up.
Inside the Brain Bill: Abolishing the Counterfeit Bill is now available on Netflix.